JW refuse 2nd resurrection of righteous and wicked.
- C.Aamold
- Oct 30, 2024
- 6 min read
Updated: Aug 27
NOTE: I do not subscribe to any religion. I once believed in Masoretic Text translations until I dug deeper and came to a different conclusion during my search through Christian denominational teachings, their leaders, and the roots of how they started, while reading the Bible itself verse by verse a few times (many translations) or more to match up their beliefs to the spiritual book they claim to follow and believe in themselves. If you ask me what I believe, I would say what the scholarly census has agreed upon, even if the decision board doesn't agree with them because they're worried about the faith of humanity for what they were taught to believe despite it contradicting evidence. Anything I've studied, watched, read is added here to help you see how I got to this point to help others who are curious too.
To explain their version of a second resurrection
12, 13. (a) Why is it illogical to say that the rest of the dead will not be resurrected until after the millennium? (b) What, then, is the meaning of the expression “come to life” used in Revelation 20:5? (c) How will it be determined whose names are finally recorded in “the scroll of life”?
12 These “dead” are the same as “the rest of the dead” mentioned in Re 20 verse five of the same chapter, and of whom it is stated that they “did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.” This cannot mean that they are not resurrected until after the millennial judgment day, because those who share in the “first resurrection” are given “power of judging” and will be “priests” and “rule as kings” with Christ “for the thousand years.” (Revelation 20:4-6) Whom will they judge and rule over as kings, and on behalf of whom will they act as priests, if “the rest of the dead” are not resurrected until the end of the millennium?
13 Consequently, the expression “come to life” must refer to the situation at the end of the 1,000-year-long Judgment Day. It means that these persons “come to life” in that they finally attain human perfection.
Wait are they not literally saying the word for word verse is illogical? Yes, yes they are.
It means, the rest of the world, evil and righteous will be rezzed, just like it plainly says?
If this is not literal, then 144k isn't either.
They added "as kings" (check the challenging their NWT pt.2 post).
come back to life
ἔζησαν (ezēsan)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Plural
Strong's 2198: To live, be alive. A primary verb; to live.
This may result in people’s believing that there will be a resurrection of people who did evil things just for the purpose of condemning them. But that is false doctrine. Also false doctrine is the belief that all evil persons will come back in this resurrection. How do we know?
A modern Bible translation sets the matter straight, giving us the right understanding of Jesus’ words: “The hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.” (John 5:28, 29, NW) So it is not a resurrection of condemnation at all. Rather, these persons will be judged by their future deeds during the 1,000-year reign of Christ the King. And those who come back are not all the persons who ever lived that did vile things but only those who are in the “memorial tombs,” in God’s memory.
graves
μνημείοις (mnēmeiois)
Noun - Dative Neuter Plural
Strong's 3419: A tomb, sepulcher, monument. From mneme; a remembrance, i.e. Cenotaph.
Not once was it used elsewhere as Gods hard drive(memory).
Acts 24:14-16
But this I confess to you, that according to the Way, which they call a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the Law and written in the Prophets, having a hope in God, which these men themselves accept, that there will be a resurrection of both the just and the unjust. So I always take pains to have a clear conscience toward both God and man.
Luke 12:47-48
That servant who knows his master’s will but does not get ready or follow his instructions will be beaten with many blows. But the one who unknowingly does things worthy of punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and from him who has been entrusted with much, even more will be demanded.
If this is someone acting evil in the congregation and deemed evil enough to be punished...which happens with the "master" who is Jesus (in these verses, which they would know since this is the conclusion of what they call their "prophecy"), wouldn't that mean the wicked is around at rez time?
The ones in on the "servants/slave's" wicked acts that will be paid with condemnation, those who unknowingly were acting wicked with them (such as the rank and file), will also go through condemnation but a lighter version, so they too are considered wicked.
Rev 20:7-15
When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison, and will come out to deceive the nations which are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore. And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them. And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them; and they were judged, each one of them according to their deeds. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Seems to me, the thousands of years have passed, the actual last battle happens, God fights for his people. THEN scrolls open, people are raised to be judged by what's in the book/scroll, not taught during the 1k years that had passed (JW doctrine). But obviously, people will be judged (I won't speculate how Luke 12:45-48) for their deeds, and there are two sorts of deeds, righteous or wicked ones. You can't bear rotten fruit if you are good, and vice-versa. We will know them by their fruit, so those good people are among us now even. But, someone's coming back to life later, wicked. They will not escape the judgement no matter how hard they hope to enter their made-up heaven castles in the sky, or you'll have to be rezzed twice my friend. "And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp". I wouldn't be surprised if they changed their doctrine to a place in heaven, after people that were supposed to see that day died off and needed a place to be, all of a sudden.
Joh 6:51-55
“I am the living bread that came down out of heaven; if anyone eats from this bread, he will live forever; and the bread which I will give for the life of the world also is My flesh.” Then the Jews began to argue with one another, saying, “How can this Man give us His flesh to eat?” So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves. “The one who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. “For My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink.
How many last days are there?
2Cor 12:1-4
I must go on boasting. Although there is nothing to gain, I will go on to visions and revelations from the Lord. I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of it I do not know, but God knows. And I know that this man—whether in the body or out of it I do not know, but God knows— was caught up to Paradise. The things he heard were too sacred for words, things that man is not permitted to tell.
Those white angels JW's freak him out?
What did the Jews, to whom Paul belongs, believe about the third heaven?
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