Trinity or Not Trinity?
- C.Aamold
- Nov 5, 2024
- 22 min read
Updated: Aug 27

NOTE: I do not subscribe to any religion. I once believed in Masoretic Text translations until I dug deeper and came to a different conclusion during my search through Christian denominational teachings, their leaders, and the roots of how they started, while reading the Bible itself verse by verse a few times (many translations) or more to match up their beliefs to the spiritual book they claim to follow and believe in themselves. If you ask me what I believe, I would say what the scholarly census has agreed upon, even if the decision board doesn't agree with them because they're worried about the faith of humanity for what they were taught to believe despite it contradicting evidence. Anything I've studied, watched, read is added here to help you see how I got to this point to help others who are curious too.
How to read: I put these in order as much as I could, from the beginning to the end of the Bible. However, some wrap up a context by cross-referencing one another to bring in the point. My notes are raw and help explain my reasoning or how I've come to an understanding for myself based on the whole Bible in its whole context, not just cherry-picked. Hence why I have so many, not just 4 common debate verses. I do not write out the verse because I don't want the translation I'm using to be an issue or thought to be biased. I think the point of each verse will come across in either of them.
Gen_1:1-3
Vs 2-3
The Spirit of God is said to be a person, or Jesus. If so, it would contradict the next verse that people say the light was Jesus. Either way, it's a broken Trinity, and the oneness wouldn’t have been with Jesus yet here, for if you consider him to be “light” in the next verse, he was not one like the Spirit of God is here. If there was oneness at all, it was the Spirit of God and God, being that His force is spirit. Through it, God created Jesus. If you consider “light” being Jesus, therefore, Jesus would be a created being again breaking the Trinity apart.
Gen_3:22
Someone existed with Him then. But didn't Jesus "become" the Son of God?
Gen_41:40-44
Parallel how God and Jesus are working together.
Gen_43:28
Word play (from here on if you see this it means check the Greek, biblehub the verse and scroll down)
Gen_45:7-8
Josephs whole story is to show who Jesus is to God and how it works with him and God. probably why they don't recommend you read from the O.T. and just start with John, which why, when it starts with Matthew? Perhaps, so you can wear the lenses of what they want you to believe.
Gen_48:15-16
Maybe Trinity, see...I'm fair.
Gen_49:25
"from the God of your father" didn't mean God himself, speaking of Jesus. With didn't mean, as in before his birth.
Gen_50:1-4-6
Agency, or speaking in the name of Pharoah, as Jesus did with God and Moses.
Gen_50:19
Like Jesus saying don't worship me but God.
Exo_3:2-7
Agency.
God saw him, then the angel of the Him spoke to prepare him for God speaking and then God spoke.
Angel should be translated into English as "messenger" both in Latin and Greek, its saying messenger of Yahweh, if angel of the lord is Jesus, or God himself (trinity) how is he a messenger FOR Yahweh, if he's speaking from himself. Though trinitarians say it wasn't an angel to Prove to JWs he wasn't, but Stephen says he was Act_7:30.
Exo_4:12
How Jesus spoke, it didn't have to be God himself.
Exo_4:16
Agency example, he is as God and Aaron as Jesus. no one ever really pays attention to Aaron if you noticed, when he's doing most of the work.
Also, Pharoah is also playing the counterfeit God with his little priest trying to keep up with Aaron, little anti-Christ if you will.
Exo_4:25
Moses feet may be the angel feet instead.
Exo_4:31
They didn't take either of them being the actual God of them.
They believed just as we are to believe by Jesus's doing works by God.
They took these people as God being with them.
Exo_5:23
In your name. God's name, as Jesus came in God's name. Moses was not God.
Exo_6:6-8
Actions Moses and Aaron will do but they are not considered God.
Exo_7:1-2
"like God" but not.
Aaron shall be his prophet but not God.
Exo_8:6-10
Aaron did the acts, yet not considered God. Heck, they don't even pay attention to him.
Exo_10:3
Moses speaking as if he was God, if Jesus spoke like this, which he actually never did, people would be like YUP TRINITY, but this shows, this isn't a NOT normal thing.
Exo_12:28
Was commanded by Moses and Aaron, Jesus-like figures, yet didn't worship them and took it as listening to Yahweh.
Exo_13:3
Didn't give credit to himself but to God even though most that "work" was by his hand and the staff. Just like Jesus would have said.
Exo_13:14-15
Didn't give credit to Moses, such as Jesus won't give credit to himself.
Exo_14:19
Agency, not Jesus.
Exo_14:21
Didn't mean Moses was God when he was doing the action for God to move the water.
Exo_14:24
The Angels were the pillars, but it was the act of God agency.
Per vrs 19
Exo_14:25
Even the Egyptians knew it was God though there was man and angel in action here. They didn't call THEM God.
Exo_14:27
His action was Gods power.
Exo_14:30-31
Exactly how Jesus works, didn't mean Moses was God.
What it means when people believed in God by Jesus.
Luk_5:26
Mat_9:8
Luk_18:43
Mat_15:31
Exo_16:7-8
As we grumble at the Messiah or the apostles we are actually grumbling toward God.
They are humble, not giving their selves credit as Jesus continuedly did the same.
Exo_16:23-24
Yahweh commanded it but they took it as Moses's commandment, not calling him God.
Exo_17:2
Going to him instead of God. Jesus himself showed apostles how to pray to God in his name, and they prayed to God themselves choosing the new apostle.
Exo_17:7
Even with their prophet there, they were not sure if God was with them or not. Today they have done the same, making Jesus into God since we can't see Him anyway so they can follow some other man that says he has the ways to God (now Jesus).
They didn't even consider Moses being God, if him being there wasn't enough. That went for Jesus too in some sort of a way and why they walked away easily while he was here.
Exo_17:9
Not his own staff/power.
Exo_18:1
Even though he had the staff, etc., it wasn't Moses that was God.
Exo_18:8-11
No credit to himself or Aaron.
Or Jethro calling him God.
Exo_18:13
They would have called him God for this, but not God.
Exo 18:15-20
As Jesus
Exo_19:3
As the mediator went to God just like Jesus on the mount.
Exo_19:17
As Jesus will do I believe.
Exo_19:19
Like Jesus.
Exo_19:20
Like Jesus's ascension.
Exo_20:3
gods usually mean "mighty men" or people that work for God. this is why sometimes i feel the adversary is the spirit of the men going against God to be set above him, like we see they do through nimrod, and neb and pharaoh.
You can look at it as no high man before me.
God is one.
Exo_22:8-9
Judges, God, considered gods, agency.
Exo_22:9
Coming to God was going to the judges, didn't mean they were God.
Exo_22:20
Plain and clear.
Exo_23:13
No other.
Exo_23:20-24
The cloud is not God himself but an angel, but they call it God but it's no, its acting for God.
Just like hearing Jesus, but this was not God.
Jesus had Gods name/spirit/character in him.
Obey his voice=do all that I say.
God led them out, BY the angel.
Exo_24:1
Yahweh talking about Yahweh, no.
Agency
Exo_24:2
A foreshadow of Jesus and how he works the same.
Exo_24:10
They didn't see God himself, but an angel of the lord, agency.
Exo_28:41
Foreshadow of Jesus and the body, separate from God.
Exo_29:41-46
Aaron being the role of Jesus, and the priest the apostles whom we learn from (reading scripture and their letters and what Jesus has said himself), to do exactly this, FOR God our God, Aarons God, Jesus's God, to dwell within us. It is a play, it separates them.
Moses is saying this too them, but if it were Jesus saying, "and they shall know that I am Yah their God", they would take that logic of the trinity and place it on Moses.
Exo_31:3
Filled with the spirit of God but not God, though even the line of Jesus.
Exo_32:16
The angels he met with wrote them, but still of God, the angels not actual God.
Exo_32:34
His angel goes before him, but not God himself, but in place of Him, as if it were Him.
Exo_33:2
An angel, not physically himself.
Exo_33:10
They were not worshipping what may have been the angel of Yahweh, but Yahweh, not the actual agent.
But if he wasn't in a room speaking to Yahweh actually, the angel of the lord (pillar of cloud) was as if he was speaking to Yahweh himself.
Exo_34:5-11
An angel in his place, a herald.
Either one or two angels, announcing who God is in the 3rd person.
Not God talking about himself.
These were angels and Moses worshipped them, but they were not God himself. You're worshipping God by honoring the messengers and heralds and angels or men in his place that speak for God.
"in your sight" talking to angels but meaning the favor of God so that the angels or God will lead them. I'm thinking asking God to let his angel be in the midst of them.
The angel speaking as if he is God himself.
Or He's announced before he directly talks to Moses like He does at the bush after being announced.
Exo_34:29-35
Moses shone too like Jesus in Mat_17:1-2
He was actually with Yahwehs angel here, so, just because Jesus shown doesn't mean he was God himself, he was in the presence of those that also showed Gods glory, and it spread on him.
Exo_34:32
Though it was the angel of Yahweh, but he didn't think of the angel as God.
Agency
Exo_35:31
The way he talks about himself (Moses) as if he isn't speaking of himself, is a normal Hebrew thing.
Belsalel, line of Jesus here, filled with the holy spirit, like Jesus was, he learned this stuff fast as well apparently. This isn't a new thing, this guy wasn't GOD because of this, and he was knowledgeable, like Jesus was, go back to when the pharisee were surprised that he knew so much but was uneducated Joh_7:15.
Lev_10:19-20
Aaron asked Moses if Yahweh would approve, and Moses approved, didn't mean Moses was God, no one took it that way,
Num_15:39-41
Jesus wore the same thing, so he was reminded of himself?
Mat_9:20
Luk_8:44
Mat_14:36
Mar_5:27
Deu_6:4
How many?
Deu_32:18
God is also a rock as Jesus is too.
Jdg_3:10
Wasn't considered God.
Jdg_6:12-18
Agency
Jdg_6:22-23
Face to face, was like seeing God face to face, but it was the angel of God.
Jdg_6:34
But not considered God.
Jdg_13:9-11
Angel of God says I am.
Jdg_13:21-22
Seeing the angel of God is seeing God, agency.
1Ki_7:7
A man that judged.
1Ki_1:12-14
A man with the power of God.
1Ki_19:9-10
"the word of Yahweh came to him, and he said to him"
Joh_1:1
2Ki_3:12
With men before.
The spirit of Christ with the prophets 1Pe_1:11.
2Ki_5:15
A servant of a man, but he's not God even talking about God.
1Ch_9:20
Phinehas has God with him, not God.
1Ch_12:18
The spirit covered him like clothing, isn't that like Jesus in a way? Not God.
2Ki_6:21
Calling the prophet father, but not God.
Ezr_7:28
Didn't make him God, but God was upon him.
Job_32:8
Spirit in man kind that teaches.
Psa_2:2-7
His anointed, his king (that he picked).
"And his anointed" "us"
Son and father.
Psa_2:11-12
Talking about his son, and to worship him.
To serve God is to worship his picked king, his son.
Psa_69:1 (all)
Prayers and talking between God and Yeshua.
Psa_80:15-16
Jesus is Gods hand.
Psa_82:4-7
Others called gods, but not God.
Psa_84:3
Could support.
Psa_86:5
As if Yeshua were speaking like other psalms.
Ps 88:20
Then thou spokest in a vision to thy saints, and saidst: I have laid help upon one that is mighty, and have exalted one chosen out of my people.
Act_13:22
Missing verse, probably because it foretells of a man, not God.
Psa_89:26
Yeshua talking to his God.
Psa_89:27
He will take the inheritance like Jacob.
Psa_91:14-16
God talking about Yeshua.
Psa_110:1
Adoni and Adonai are different.
Jesus reigns till God has put all his enemies under him.
Psa_115:1
Not trinity
Psa_115:16
Given to mankind, Yeshua is given it as our king, man...mankind as lord of earth.
Psa_118:1(all)
Yeshua speaking as high priest.
Psa_119:152
Yeshua speaking.
Maybe this is what he was talking about giving him the glory in his prayer to this father
linked to:
Psa_139:13-18
Joh_17:5
This is what his preexistence means!
Psa_145:17
A song to God, a version of Yeshua singing to him.
Isa_9:6
Could be trinity, but mighty God isn't new, when messiahs before him were considered the same, elite men, considered the same. eternal father rather than Adam being our father, he is still prince.
Isa_11:1
Not that he is the spirit.
Isa_11:1-4
Not trinity
Isa_22:20
Like Yeshua
Isa_40:12-13
Separate
Isa_43:1-10
Israel is Gods glory and he's not giving his glory to another.
Isa_44:6-8
Isa_44:24-28
Isa_45:21
Isa_46:13
To Israel
Isa_47:8-12
Rev_13:3-14
Jer 50-51
Rev_8:6-7
Isa_48:16
Separate
Isa_48:11
He made Israel and Jacob for the purpose.
Isa_49:1-6
Spirit of Christ talking.
Isa_52:7
Jesus speaking of God.
Isa_52:13
Jesus
Isa_53:11
"his soul" God "my servant" Jesus.
Isa_55:1-13
v11 the word sent.
Isa_60:1
Isa_60:19
He could be meaning to another people/nation.
Simply talking to Israel in this context.
Israel is gaining the glory, and Jesus is the prime Israel, so he has the glory upon him.
Isa_61:1-3
Isa_63:12
Right hand was Moses then, Jesus now.
Jer_1:1-19
To Yeshua
Jer_1:9-12
Agency
Angel of the lord considered God.
Jer_11:18-19
Yeshua talking (spirit of Christ).
Jer_23:5
Yeshua
Jer_30:9
Their king, future David.
Jer_30:21
Jer_33:15-16
Jer_50:35
Could be mistaken as trinity, but the spirit of Christ, is God, that is in Yeshua.
Jer_50:44
Set apart
Eze_37:22-24
Eze_34:15-16
Sounds like trinity but...
Eze_34:23-24
Explains how he'll do it.
Eze_37:22-24
Yeshua is King
Eze_44:1-6
All Eze_45:1-25
Yeshua is our prince
Eze_45:1-24
Still the prince
Dan_2:47
God of gods, lord of kings
Dan_3:11-28
Even the pagans knew Yeshua and him are separate.
Dan_4:9
Daniel had the spirit of God, but not God.
Dan_9:25-27
Yeshua
The new kingdom (us with Jews) will be built in troubling times (parallel?).
Cut off, back with God?
He=Yeshua?
Either way after he's been there, no more sacrificing, he is the fulfillment, the mock ones were foretelling.
Dan_11:36
The trinity
Hos_13:4
Trinity?
Hos_13:9-14
King being sent to help is God with them.
Oba_1:1
A whole council working for God to be messengers after hearing a report after him?
Jon_1:1
The word was God that came to Jonah. the spirit of the Christ.
Zec_1:12-13
Zec_2:8-11
Zec_3:7-10
Zec_4:1-10
Zec_6:12-13
Yeshua is the branch
Zec_10:3-4
Yeshua cornerstone
Zec_12:7-10
Yeshua will be like...God, like the angel of God.
Zec_13:5-6
His wounds at crux.
Mal_3:1-7
Mic_5:4
Yeshua will come in the NAME of God, the spirit of Christ (God) in him.
Mat_1:20
People want to make the angel of the lord Yahweh himself, and also as Jesus being the angel of the lord, if Jesus is in the womb how can that be?
Mat_2:12-13
Angel of the lord while Jesus was a child. meaning he can't be the angel of the lord. how can God be in both baby and in someone's dream?
Mat_2:19
Angel of the lord again while Jesus was probably around a preteen age.
Mat_3:3
They would say then Jesus is God.
Mat_3:17
Separate, he also wasn't in heaven talking, God was in heaven talking to him, making the separation. He's not found favor in himself for himself. it was a man he was pleased in who sought Gods favor.
Mat_4:1
Being led by Gods spirit a separate action. Not leading himself in himself.
Mat_4:3-10
God can't be tempted, even the tempter, wouldn't tempt God, and acknowledges him as the SON not father or God himself.
He as a man passed the temptations the COI could not pass.
He also says the Shema, which is "God is one" Deu_6:4
Mat_5:35
God, and then the city of the great king, his king he chose most likely
Mat_6:8-9
Talking about the father, ask him... not ask me.
"our father"
Mat_6:24
"serve God" not him.
Mat_6:30
Talking about God, not of himself.
Mat_6:32
Not himself
Mat_8:8-10
"I also am a man under authority"
Yeshua serves his superior.
He gets told orders and he fulfills it by sending who's under him
Soldier=apostles, making servants.
The relief to hear someone truly understand
Centurion=commander of a century
Mat_16:16-28
Separate
Mat_17:5
Separate
Mat_18:10-14
He's on earth, God is in heaven.
Separate
Mat_22:44-45
David knew them as Seperate.
Mat_26:31-45
Who will strike the Shepard?
My father, separate.
Mat_28:9-10
Mar_1:35
Praying to his God.
Mar_2:7-10
Son of man was GIVEN authority.
Mar_5:2-10
Demon possessed, particularly multiple demons, can give a person an insane ability of physical strength.
Crying out and cutting self is what Baal worshippers do to their god.
1Ki_18:28
Trying to find help in any god at that point?
Kneel down in respect.
Even demons went by Gods design law with oaths, even demons know he is the messiah.
If he was God, why bother with calling him son of the most high?
Yeshua didn't even torture him(them), he compromised and let their own choice do the work for him.
Yeshua didn't know the name.
Demons beg.
Mar_6:46
To whom?
Mar_9:29
Mar_10:18
Only God
Mar_10:40
Mar_12:29-31
The Shema
Mar_12:36
Mar_16:19
Luk_1:15
Didn't mean he was God, and he had the spirit before baptism.
Luk_1:32
The SON.
Luk_1:32-34
Not Gods throne but David, the son of man's throne.
Forever.
Do not know is a different way of saying it, I no "I have not known?"
Luk_1:35
Holy spirit not a person but the overshadow of God.
SON
Luk_1:41
She isn't God.
Luk_1:66
God was with him, but not God himself.
Luk_1:67
Not God though.
Luk_1:76
I could see where people may see this being Jesus is God, but still no. Jesus was the Messiah, apostles were even not agreeing with Jesus being a prophet when Jesus asked them, what are people saying of them, they themselves said, you are the Messiah. Prophets were telling of the messiah, messiah is here, messiah is here to talk about the kingdom to come.
Luk_2:11
Can see why trinitarians would use this, but simply put, messiah, the king... that is who Jesus is. Doesn't mean messiah, Yahweh.
Luk_2:15
Angels they saw but took it as God told them.
Luk_2:22
Present him to himself, I think not.
Luk_2:23
Being offered to Yahweh.
Luk_2:25
But not God.
How can the spirit be with him, if he's on earth with him.
Luk_2:29
He talking to the baby? Nah.
Luk_2:40-41
Pleased with self?
Luk_2:49
Not his own house.
Luk_2:52
Why as "God" here, would he be finding favor in himself.
Luk_3:2
So, a Jesus came to John? or... is John God?
Luk_3:16
Baptizes us with Gods spirit.
Luk_3:21
Praying to?
Luk_3:22
This is where people are calling God a liar.
This is Gods spirit on him. divided.
Found favor in God.
Luk_4:4
He has to follow commandments.
Luk_4:6
If Gods Jesus, then why would he have to ask back his stuff.
Luk_4:8
Following the Shema himself.
Luk_4:18-19
Read all of Isaiah and its N.T. and since it pertains to him this moment... it's still N.T, as he verifies in Luk_4:21.
Luk_4:41
Even the demons know God is one.
Luk_4:43
Sent, and didn't call it his kingdom.
Luk_5:16
To?
Luk_5:17
Why repeat that, but not his power>
Luk_5:24
Man, flesh.
Luk_5:25-26
Not Jesus
Luk_6:12
To pray not to himself, but to God.
Luk_6:35-42
Luk_7:2-8
Agency, this guy gets it.
Speaking not just from elder Jews, but friends as well later.
Luk_7:16
They didn't look at him as God, but as a great prophet like Moses, and how the people believed God because of his acts that God did through him, at one point even, Moses there in front of them, when they grumbled, they questioned if God was with them.
Luk_7:19
The prophet who baptized him questioned God after being so sure?
Luk_7:27
Jesus being spoken to by God through prophecy.
Luk_7:33-34
Same talk for both, didn't mean John preexisted, he just had the same spirit as Elijah, but wasn't actually Elijah. 1PE 1:11
Luk_8:10
Gods' kingdom, separate.
Luk_8:28
Even the demons know God is one.
Luk_8:39
Jesus says God. he changed it to Jesus, but Moses would have got the same praise but not take credit either.
Luk_8:44
The blue fringe on the bottom of your robe is to remember God, why did he have to be reminded if he was God?
Luk_9:2
Not proclaiming God is here, but the kingdom to come of God.
Luk_9:6
Same as v2.
Luk_9:7-8
Still no conclusion that he was God himself.
Luk_9:16-18
Why looking at heaven? If he's getting the blessing from himself?
Praying alone.
Luk_9:19-20
Still...no one bringing up God, not even his disciples.
"Of God"
Luk_9:22
God can't die.
Luk_9:26
Separate Glory from God. He has his own glory, by the people he saved and not being put to shame by his father.
"in his own glory and on his fathers, and of the holy angels".
3 separate, holy spirit not included here.
By the authority of Gods power.
If he is God why not say "in my full glory", not his own, and then "my fathers"?
Also, wouldn't that mean angels are the trinity?
Luk_9:28-29
To whom.
Luk_9:35
People calling God a liar if what he says is indeed true. As it is... he CHOSE someone...
Jesus isn't talking.
Separate beings right here.
Luk_9:43
NT readers would say this is God, OT readers, would totally get it.
They would understand instead, Gods greatness was that he indeed kept his promise to them. Through the messiah he said he was going to pick.
Luk_9:48
Sent him.
Luk_10:2
Plead to who? Why is he even asking they speak to God, if he IS supposedly God?
Luk_10:9
Nothing about GOD is here.
Luk_10:11
Not that God is here.
Luk_10:16
Who sent me.
Luk_10:21-22
Being joyful, in the spirit, not a person being joyful in him
Thanks the father for the actions he saw separately, like giving thanks to God not himself.
Calls him Father, and YOUR will.
Things have been handed over by the father.
They know each other, and Jesus makes the knowledge of his works and the kingdom of God known to who he accepts.
Not praying to himself "all things have been delivered to me".
The people that were self-righteous in their own mind could not be given these gifts. They have closed their minds to Yeshua and are not eager to learn, humble, nor open minded to even understand their own messiah.
"the one"? us.
The prophets and kings didn't get to see what they lived their lives hoping and promoting to be seen later.
Luk_10:27-28
Stating the Shema, of ONE God, and Jesus agrees, doesn't say worship him as God.
Luk_11:1-2
Praying to?
FATHER, not direct it to me.
Luk_11:13
Talking about the father, didn't say I will.
Holy spirit kind of as a "it".
Luk_11:20
He cast out, by the finger of God aka holy spirit. the spirit is Gods. Separate from being God himself and making the act of authority he has not a person.
Luk_11:27-28
Do not worship Mary.
Luk_11:49
Not his own
Luk_12:6
Didn't say he doesn't forget them.
Luk_12:8-9
Not his angels but God.
Luk_12:10
Holy spirit is God
Luk_12:12
Meaning God
Luk_12:14
Knows it's not his spot but Gods to do this.
Luk_12:20-21
Not himself.
Luk_12:24
Not himself.
Luk_12:28
Not taking credit.
Luk_12:30-32
Not saying I know.
His kingdom, as in the fathers not his own.
Your father not mine.
Luk_12:40
If people are saying when he is talking about God, he's talking about himself, why not say "for God is coming" now?
Luk_18:19
Even Yeshua states he is not the source of good.
Luk_22:26-32
Luk_22:69-70
Luk_23:34-35
Joh_1:1
Word=logos not a person. it dwelt in man. as in... the word God was speaking through prophets this whole time...so yeah, it can be "was God" because its God speaking through prophets and Jesus, doesn't mean the word is Jesus. It's like saying the beginning was the command, the gospel or purpose.
Can also be "was divine"
Isa_55:11
"my word be that goes forth from my mouth"
Gen_1:3
"God said"
Psa_33:6
Heb_1:1-2
God spoke
1Ti_6:15-16
Joh_14:23-24
Mat_24:35
God is the word that dwells in Jesus, he cannot die, so therefore the words that are from God, because God is the word will never die.
The word is the spirit of God. Is the Holy spirit, that is God. That dwells in Jesus, and because of Jesus, now dwells with us. We have the word in us.
2Ti_1:14
Eph_2:22
Eph_3:17
Col_1:27
1Co_3:16
Rom_8:9-11
1Co_15:45
Joh_1:31-33
Tohn did not know who it would be, did not mean him, it was to be revealed to him.
To keep it humble? to test his faith?
Who is "he" that sent him to baptize with water?
Luk_3:2
The word?
Before he was baptized and still gaining favor Luk_2:52.
Yeshua baptized with the holy spirit.
Joh_3:1-21
Joh_5:35
2Sa_21:17
The light of Israel. agency. Jesus was also called the light.
Isa_10:17
Joh_4:34-36
Joh_5:17-30
Joh_6:14
Not God but their king.
Joh_6:27
Separate
Joh_6:29
Separate
Joh_6:38-51
John came down too, separate, an action.
Seeing Him, yet separating him and God, saying see God. why not say they saw him then if God.
Joh_6:65
Separate
Joh_6:69
Not God
Joh_7:16-18
Discernment
He will not seek his own glory, not Yeshua's doctrine but of the most high's, one who sent him.
Joh_7:26
Not as God.
Joh_7:28-29
Separate
Joh_7:31
Messiah is a human savior and consider him a man here.
Joh_8:28-29
Separated
Joh_10:26-30
Those that don't believe or are open to understanding are not of the flock.
He keeps us, doesn't let anyone falsely guide us, for we are dedicated and committed to him and his teachings.
"my father who has given them to me is greater than all".
They are from the same establishment same family, same mission, same ownership.
Joh_10:34-36
Psa_82:6
There once were sons of God, then they fell, he is the first new one, the new Adam, this time, created through a woman, the second human to be created by God directly.
Not new information to them, did they just want the same title?
Joh_12:23-33
Joh_12:48-49
Sent, fathers told him.
Joh_14:1-4
Joh_14:10-22
Joh_16:5
Sent
Joh_16:15
Given by God.
Joh_16:23
Ask the father and he will give.
Joh_16:31-33
Joh_17:18
Mind you the whole prayer he's asking of God is a separation.
But sent.
Joh_17:21-24
It's not a trinity for us who are in them, or we are all God.
Joh_17:25-26
Sent
We are not part of that "trinity" but the same in him, in me, is spoken of to describe the trinity, but we are also in them.
Joh_18:37
Doesn't say God, but king.
Joh_20:17
Must I explain?
Act_1:24-26
Act_2:17-28
Act_2:34-39
Act_3:13
Servant
Act_3:15
Prince
Act_4:30
Praying to God about his son.
Act_5:19-20
Act_5:30-31
Separate
Act_7:55-56
Act_9:1-4
Act_9:31
Not trinity?
Act_10:38
Separate
Act_10:42-43
Separate
But 43 would be used as trinity proof.
Act_11:17
Separate
Act_13:29
Not himself
Act_13:30
Who raised him?
Act_13:37
Not himself
Act_14:11
They thought trinity.
Act_14:15-17
Singular
Act_15:14
Peter/Simeon=God visiting, but he wasn't God.
Act_17:31
He's not judging the world till he comes back, meaning, this is saying he is still a man. Not an angel nor God himself.
Rom_1:3
A man
Rom_1:7
Separate
Rom_1:8-9
Through Jesus
Separate
Rom_2:16
God judges, by Jesus
Rom_3:25-26
God giving Jesus a role.
Rom_4:24
God raised Jesus. not himself.
Rom_5:1-2
Through Jesus
Rom_5:9-11
Separating them.
Through
Rom_5:12
Same role, different story, both men, neither God.
Rom_7:25
Through
Rom_8:9-11
We have Christ by believing him and becoming like him, and if we become like him, God dwells in us too like him. Doesn't mean Gods spirit is Jesus's too. It's like...we become Jesus ourselves by his sacrifice for us, so we get the spirit of God as well like he did first. He shared his spirit through his act so we can be vessels like him and get the holy spirit of God. "Through his [Jesus]spirit who dwells in you", God works THROUGH Jesus, that's how you know its two separates. But they are enmeshed together now through Gods holiness that spreads to all. It's like... we're all grey dots, Jesus turned his grey dot to red by being favored by God and now God is with him because he's red. all of us are grey, his dot was triggered to spread on the cross, when we believe who he is and take care of the temple(ourselves) Jesus shares what made him red. He did what it took to be red, and to be able to spread it to us. what made him red for doing those things, is God, that is the keeper of the red.
Rom_8:26-27
Jesus' spirit helps us through the weakness, the spirit of himself (Jesus)intercedes for us.
Christ within us yearning for Gods help for us, why in john 17 he can say, God in them and himself.
Why it's not a 3rd spirit.
So, if anything there is 3 spirits, ours letting Jesus's in to help, Jesus's helping us and Gods checking on us.
Mind of the spirit we have, whether it is of Jesus or an intruder (Satan spirit, why Jesus can tell pharisee you're of the devil), because the spirit of Jesus intercedes for us by Gods work/mission. God reads who we have in us and is searching for Jesus in us that intercedes for us, because that's how he made it work.
1Co_10:4
The spirit is Christ, the Christ, is the spirit in the man, in the prophets, in the clouds, in the rock. The spirit of the Messiah, is Christ, is God.
1Co_15:20-28
1Co_15:45
Also, "He who raised Christ Jesus" separate, there are two different people, working with their force of actions.
2Co_1:3-7
2Co_11:7
What Jesus also taught
Gal_1:1
Eph_1:20-23
Eph_3:9
Eph_4:2-6
Php_2:5-11
Col_1:3
Col_1:12-18
Col_2:2-4
Col_2:11-17
1Ti_1:1
1Ti_1:16-17
People could say this is trinity, but I can see it can be understood as Jesus shows the patience of God, or as Paul likes to do, he prays in the middle of his talking vs17 sounds like one of those times.
2Ti_1:1
1Ti_2:1-6
1Ti_6:13-16
He is originally talking about God in context, dashes Jesus in there, then back to God.
Tit_2:13-15
May support it, but the Greek can separate it
Tit_3:1-8
Might support
1Jn_2:1
Our paraclete=interceder
Act_9:34
Heb_1:2
If he's God, how can he be heir.
If he's speaking only through the son now, how was he not God the son the whole time he was speaking to the COI in the old test?
Heb_1:3
Jesus is the RADIANCE of God, not the source of the Ray as God himself is.
Heb_1:5
Begotten, not to an angel, probably also not God.
Heb_1:6
2Sa_7:14
"will be"
Heb_1:8
The O God actually means THEE God, which, in that case would mean Jesus is being lifted up by God in a sense, that his throne is GOD himself, not Jesus being God.
Psa_45:6
Elohim Exo_7:1
Like mighty men, not GOD
Psa_82:6
Heb_1:8-12
Your God
Vrs above for the "God" part.
Heb_2:10-18
God not Jesus.
Heb_3:1-6
Heb_6:13-15
Heb_7:16-17
Like Mel, Mels not an angel or God.
Not making him God, but priest to God, nor angel.
Heb_7:28
Has been made perfect, God was always perfect.
Heb_8:1-6
Heb_10:12-18
Heb_10:21
Not God, not a priest praising himself.
Heb_12:2
Heb_12:18-24
Heb_13:21
Separate
Jas_1:13
God can't be tempted.
Jas_2:19
Jas_5:17
Nature talk, doesn't mean Gods nature sometimes.
1Pe_1:3
Father of.
1Pe_1:13-21
1Pe_2:4-10
1Pe_3:18-22
1Pe_4:19
Maybe trinity with the word play?
1Pe_5:1-11
2Pe_1:2-4
2Pe_1:16-21
1Jn_1:1-4
1Jn_1:5-10
Or trinity?
1Jn_2:1-2
1Jn_2:3-11
1Jn_3:24
1Jn_4:9-11
1Jn_4:12-16
1Jn_5:1-5
1Jn_5:7-13
2Jn_1:3
Jud_1:4
Maybe trinity
Jud_1:9
Jud_1:25
Rev_1:1-20
Not trinity, till v 8? and 17-18.
Rev_14:14-15
Separate beings, one as son of man with a crown (Jesus) and an angel speaking to him. Not an angel and angel.
I stopped here. The more research I did, and how I had to find my notes twice after I put them into a computer program from handwritten notes twice since my computer died... I was just done. I've learned this last book was most likely propaganda from Athanasius against the Arians, and to fish them out. The way people turned this book into a code to decipher for the end of the world (which wasn't an idea until the late 19th century) and how red-letter Bibles make God's words into Jesus's and more, has just worn me out at this point. Hopefully this is enough. When I look through my notes for the rest of this book, I see "not trinity" in the margins all over the place, so I can count on that if you understand from seeing my verses above and where my head was, you yourself will be able to see it elsewhere, especially in this book, especially if you read the Greek directly translated from BibleHub or Strong's itself. I don't know how else to show why I don't and can't believe the "Trinity" in Christianity no matter how much I've tried to force myself to do so.
I ultimately believe in the Hebrews' understanding of "God's agency," where if you are representing God, you are talked to as God and considered Thee God they worship. Say... like The Hand of the King. Anyone watch Game of Thrones? Ned Stark but still alive. A word from him was the word of the king, and he had the authority in the king's name. So, in that lens I look through, no matter how hard I try to believe what the Trinitarians believe, which they usually just revert to "it's a mystery", in my view at least, God revealed the mysteries through his Son, so why did he start hiding stuff?
Also, If you remember the prayer, where Jesus says "20I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message, 21that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
22I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one— 23I in them and You in Me—that they may be perfectly united, so that the world may know that You sent Me and have loved them just as You have loved Me.", you will see another reason why I can't believe in the Trinity. How many Christians, or at least true believers of Christ that carry his character, how many "ity's" would that be? I'm not good at math, but I think that Jesus was mentioning more than 3. This may also be why they hate the Gnostics gospels and other ancient writings, because they state, we too are God, like trinitarian Christian's state, Jesus is God. That makes more sense to me than the Trinity. Makes sense on why we are to show hospitality to all, not just to our brothers and sisters since all are the image of God. Human vessels with the Breath of Life within them.
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